I wasn't involved in the judging at West Point but they also worked a long time to complete the judging of the four cars. In Williamsburg, I am planning to have several technical presentations in the general time frame as the car show. In West Point, the judges could not attend the presentations because they were busy at work filling out their checklists. I am not talking about lowering our standards but just revising the procedures of judging.
Any recommended changes to the current procedures would need approval by the Board prior the Convention. Any thoughts or comments? Jim, I also share your concern I'm certainly a neophyte when it comes to car shows, but WOW, it seems like it ruins the judges' weekend! What takes place in other Consours events? Do they spend as much time? Total up the scores, and then if there are cars that are very close in points, get everyone together to go over them to make sure.
When it comes down to it, it's really the top 2 or 3 cars that need to have the most attention. Does it really matter if a car that's 50 points down on the leader s has repro taillights?
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I have observed, in almost all of the judged shows I've been in, that almost all of the judges know far less about each individual car model than the owners do. I expect this is pretty normal in those shows where there isn't a single class for SLs but rather we are lumped together with the 's, the Gullwings, and the Roadsters. I guess these shows are pretty small but they usually run between and vehicles most of which are judged.
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He looks at not only the gutters and door jambs, but the door hinges too and expects the same quality of finish there. He buffs everything! They want to see a consistent plan and theme throughout the whole build. The upshot for us as builders is that we have to educate our customers who are interested in the elite show scene about how the judging is done.
Things were much simpler when it came to judging cars before the s.
That was the problem — it was too simple. Panels good? Fire extinguisher? To make matters worse, the tick sheet offered no real motivation for builders to take risks and think outside the square. The old tick-sheet system meant almost anybody could call themselves a judge and mark off the checklist. Some judges were experienced car-builders; others may have simply been enthusiastic helpers. The new system of categories and weighted points requires judges with a professional understanding of car-building.
Each is an expert in their own field of specialty, and based on this each is given one or more of the seven judging categories to preside over, while also having an overview of each car. As the judges are all builders themselves, there is sometimes a situation where a judge has been involved in the build of one of the cars up for judging. That person is therefore not allowed to take part in the judging of that car, nor in any discussion of it.
The current system has several judging categories with points allocated to each. In the Elite and Street Elite classes there are seven categories, with a total score out of The total possible points in each category are weighted to reflect how important each one is in the public mind. The common criteria for all categories is degree of difficulty.
All that is rewarded with points. The judging process at MotorEx starts before the show, when the build books arrive. During the show the judging team goes out together, and as they move from car to car, each judge assesses their specific category only. The judges have their own individual techniques for judging, but all say they begin by standing back and taking the car in. They look at the stance and appreciate the overall impact. The sills and gutters are a typical first target.
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Have we improved the factory fit? Inside, the judges are looking to see if the basics are done right. Do the stitches and pleats on the squab seat line up with those on the backrest? Are the edges of the carpet finished off properly? A last point on judging is the importance of consistency. Both categories require cars to have the highest standard of quality and finish. It has innovation in spades, which ties into its Pro Touring theme. Underneath is satin black.
While both Elite and Street Elite are almost identical in the standards expected, there is one major difference. Street Elite cars do not need to have fully detailed undercarriages. These cars are driven, working machines and therefore the undercarriages will not be works of art, with the same quality paint as the outside. The whole point and spirit of the category is that these are genuine registered road cars.
To ensure this, bonnet protrusions of more than mm and rims wider than 12 inches are now banned. Mick Fabar's ZERO'D SM , Sept '12 was an innovative car from the concept up - the goal was to build an elite car out of largely recycled materials and a nil carbon footprint. Only the BU code rear end is original. Gary L is offline. Casey, What will be looked at will really depend upon what sort of 'class' you enter the car in.
A car in the Bowtie class will be checked for originality based on trim tag decode however will not be checked for correctly date coded components. In addition to quality of the restoration ie. WILL be looked for. As an example, And when you do go, To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater.
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